Friday, April 30, 2004

Gave a long shiur on masseches kinim last night. Once you understand the structure, the whole mesechta makes perfect sense and the mathematics is accurate and in a few cases quite deep. But overall the experience does not increase one's emunas chachamim. For the simple reason that certain rishonim made an absolute mess of the masechta. (I know that sounds truly arrogant, as if I were some Hartman type, but I'd be less than honest here if I didn't say what I feel very deeply on this topic. On the other hand, as will become clear in subsequent posts, I think humility is a far greater virtue than honesty. But indulge my honest arrogance just this once. The truth is that if this weren't anonymous, I'd probably never allow myself to publish such apikorsus.)

15 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

DID THE TANNAIM MAKE AMESS OUT OF THE CHUMASH AS WELL "LESHUTASCHA" (CHAS VASHALOM)

5:01 PM  
Blogger Ben said...

Yoily,
Stop trolling and learn a blatt gemara.

5:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHICH PEIRUSH SHOULD I USE

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BY THE WAY YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION AND THAT IS DO YOU THINK THE GEMARA HAS THE CHUMASH ALL WRONG ?????
IN ADDITION THE FACT THAT YOU DONT COMPREHEND THE RISHONIM MEANS THAT "YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THEM"
ZAY ZENEN GOORNISHT SHILDIG
LIKE THE SAYING GOES
AZ DOS MAIDEL KEN NISHT TANNTZEN ZUGT ZI AZ DI KLEZMER KEN NISHT SHPILIN.

7:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In fact you mention kinnim i was learning this morning masechta kinnim and came across a peirush called seder kinnim
the peirush is "lo baderech hasslulah" but it has some nice haskamos you may like it.
The mechaber ,some israeli, seems to be a groseh kup so he might impress you

8:17 PM  
Blogger Ben said...

Not a blatt gemara, but mishnayos is also good. Sounds like an interesting peirush. Please tell me more about it.

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it seens like the mechaber likes math so he wrote a peirush explaining the mishnayos according to chochmas hacheshbon
it just proves that everything is in the torah

9:15 PM  
Blogger Ben said...

sounds like apikorsus
such a sefer is found in kj?

9:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do you think its apikursis ,all the mechaber says is that that he has "noch ah mehalech" in the mishna ,not that the rishonim are wrong.

9:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I looked up the name of the baal seder kinim
his name is moshe kuppel
it might help you if you are looking to buy it

9:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to say (or rather write) that i read a letter written by you (at least my friend says that you wrote it)and it was really geshmack to read.after all the rebbe the divrei yoel always said that we are not restricted to some "idilogya"
only to the old fasioned torah
we dont have any slogans like others have "nor zober torah"
without the things that are made to keep the "olam tzuzamin"

11:27 PM  
Anonymous yoely from kj said...

how did you commerate chaf vav av the yoma dehulula of the raban shel kol bnei hagola?

7:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it seems like your gonna close your blog soon you have run out of rants

10:05 PM  
Anonymous yoeli said...

REGARDS From rabbi rakeffet,he mentioned in a shiur that you have a kesef mishna that is a source to rely on for davening late on shabbos.please tell me where it is.(I like to quote the maharam schik in darkei moshe hachdash as a source)

5:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mesechet Kinim - made easy - for first time learners : http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22812471E71D5449

11:34 AM  

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